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Whats the best for 1vs1 Blade
Bloody sword
22%
 22% [ 4 ]
Legendary golden Axe
50%
 50% [ 9 ]
Bloody Axe
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Legendary golden Sword
27%
 27% [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 18
 

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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:36 am

Phyrro :3
thanks for your explaination Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:47 am

Can I revote? I want to vote on LG swords ;( cause these people dont sell me gpots sad
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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:04 am

Trung wrote:
Can I revote? I want to vote on LG swords ;( cause these people dont sell me gpots sad

NO!?!?! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:40 am

Phyrro wrote:
If you hit max aspd with LGAs then in almost all cases the LGAs are superior end of.

The exception would be at 15 str to 28 str. That is total str AFTER buffs AFTER jewels etc.

I.e. no practical situation favours dual Bswords+10 over LGAs+10.

Even at ultimate LGAs and BSwords, the str has to be exceptionally low for Bswords to win.

In str build i have found you can do considerably better with LGAs than Bloodys at master/hero, even if you have to add some dex and pierce wind cards to achieve an optimal aspd to atk rate balance. (though aspd is only a worry if you intend to level without GT for an extended time)

LGA one hand Bsword other is not better, its just a suitable compromise. I did at one point think it better but its simply not. It is however convenient.

Other factors are how expensive bloodys are to ultimate vs LGAs. (k this has changed a bit since sun moons are most of the price but still the difference is there)

Ulti LGA outstrips +10 bloody in every situation where same aspd is attained.

Furthermore awakens now allow for aspd all over the place. Get aspd that way if you think you REALLY need it. (Im considering an alt cs set for aspd awakens Smile

Also Axe/Sword combo might be a lot worse than some people think. But i'm not telling anyone why Razz Ill experiment when i am next on to see if my theory is true. But i still wont tell anyone anyways that damn jons calc useful tho it maybe has gone and given too much knowledge to everyone and anyone in the game. But there are areas of blades it is inaccurate/presumptuous in.

Dual LGA ftw.


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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:23 pm

btw

i sold my +8 Axes and we are looking for a bloody sword now Razz
because we dont have get GT and SF.
so we need the att speed :3
maybe we will even use 2 Bloody swords Razz

but we will see Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:40 pm

Don't use 2 b swords v.v

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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:54 pm

we decided to keep our LGA +10
and use both 1 bloody sword :3
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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:52 pm

< walking around with 2 Bloody Swords lol..

i traded my LGA +10 4/4 with awake +10 STR +4 def and 15 spro for a bloody Sword +8 5/5 Slots No awake Statted +3DEX +2 STA :3

i dont mind the hits :3
i just dont like the look from LGA +Bloody Razz
i dont mind people telling it sucks having 2x bloody Razz
as long as i like it ^^
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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:34 am

True :3 i loved the look when i was LGA and Bsword and had a spare Bsword lying about for arena use.

Btw, some people did claim that sword is 10% faster than axe. This IS true...

However...

Dual Swords are as far as i can tell NOT faster than dual axes.

However...

I can't be 100% sure. I've frapsed and frasped but cant conclude for 100% either way.
Joneleth also took a 0.35 value for dual wield regardless axe or sword.
No one knows the formula for sure NOW.

However....

even if dual swords ARE 10% faster (which from fraps i seriously doubt, max was about 5% variance EITHER way fast or slow) even then that doesnt make up for the atk lost in high str builds.

Furthermore:

In the case of leveling, if you are going about KOing things in 3 to 4 hits, the atk rate cut would make you require MORE hits.

If time in seconds to take a hit = y and no_of_hits = x

It takes xy seconds to kill a mob.

For a hit with axes y = 1
For a hit with swords y = 0.9

A kill with axes would have taken an average of 4 hits when i was full str at asuras
A kill with swords would have easily take my hits taken average to 5

so for swords xy is 4.5
for axes xy is 4

thus axes still result in faster average kills times.

That is purely hypothetical though... IF swords were 10% faster in dual wield.
So far as i can observe they are not. Making axes better in almost every way for a well equipped fully buffed blade.

However there is enough variation in my frapsing and counting to allow for as much as 5 or 6% speed increases to be overlooked.

In the end i thought why am i doing this crap >_> and tested Axe Sword vs Axe Axe and found myself to level faster with Axe Axe :3

Oh btw when you spend hours observing frapsed sword and axe damage and counting the frames between hits you start to notice wierd patterns in hits. The cycle of hits kinda goes slow and fast at various times swords seem to have more extremes of slow and fast parts to the cycle, but the fastest fast parts.

Anyways, nothing wrong with axe sword, cept when you go back to axe axe and see your off hand damage .. you don't wana use a sword again ;x night rawr :3

Also yes for your no GT leveling one Bsword is a must :3 I was so happy when i made one while i was at the mushpoies at 7xM :O... then so pissed off at them being made common as muck by the first green event >_> fkin gala. Keep 120 sets rare dont let you buy them after the pvm siege like in kFlyff but pff no one cared abotu the 120 weapons /fume
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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:13 am

Thanks for the info Phyrro !! ^^
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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:23 am

I just dont like how axes look. B swords are smexy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:13 am

Amber <333333333.
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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:32 am

phyrawr is king of blades, case closed ];
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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:17 am

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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:52 am

8D - I love you adam let's eat bacon together.
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PostSubject: Re: LGA vs Bloody sword   Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:20 am

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